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departure from the pentagon today, plus clinton's last week and petraeus's resignation in 2012, general dempsey is the only known remaining advocate of arming the rebels still in a top advisory role. i'm joined who served in the obama administration state departments and is now dean of the school of advanced international studies at johns hopkins university. and andrew tabler, a senior fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. what were the main schools of thought. how did the camps break down in this argument inside the administration on what to do about syria, andrew? >> basically you have a discussion about syria about all the different options. and it really comes down to this. the white house was hedgingment they really did not want to get involved in syria. they have a firm policy to stay out of the middle east and would like to pull back. at the same time the agencies that deal with syria and the problem there, which is growing and mushrooming, the state department, cia and to a certain extent the department of defence all of which were throwing their hands up in the air a
departure from the pentagon today, plus clinton's last week and petraeus's resignation in 2012, general dempsey is the only known remaining advocate of arming the rebels still in a top advisory role. i'm joined who served in the obama administration state departments and is now dean of the school of advanced international studies at johns hopkins university. and andrew tabler, a senior fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. what were the main schools of thought. how did the...
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or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy, at the temporary mission facility, and the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart, and again, there was no specific intelligence that indicated that a second attack would occur at the annex, which was located some two miles away. the bottom line is this. we were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault, which could have been brought to an end by a u.s. military response. very simply, although we had fourses to deployed to the region, time, distance, the lack of an adequate warning, events that moved very quickly on the ground, prevented a more immediate response. despite the uncertainty at the time, the department of defense and the rest of the united states government spared no effort to do everything we could to try to save american lives. before, during, and after
or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy, at the temporary mission facility, and the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart, and again, there was no specific intelligence that indicated that a second attack would occur at the annex, which was located some two miles away. the bottom line is this. we...
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the american people are entitled to the information they talk to the president once in general dempsey and i was a rare security risk in chose to wait until somebody asked rather than assume responsibility and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a man leading the leaders in uniform. is gut-wrenching. >> is a conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were you? >> i was beyond upset and speechless to what the testimony showed. it revealed incompetence at the top of the obama administration that is breathtaking. the president not concerned with americans under attack, secretary of state's all day long never once called to ask what might
the american people are entitled to the information they talk to the president once in general dempsey and i was a rare security risk in chose to wait until somebody asked rather than assume responsibility and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a man leading the leaders in uniform. is gut-wrenching. >> is a conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but...
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as general dempsey said. and i think with regards to those specific individuals that were involved in this attack, there was a gap. we didn't have the intelligence that would have given us a heads-up that this kind of thing was going to happen. and that is something that we do need to pay attention to. >> my time is up. thank you both. >> thank you, senator ayotte. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to share in what all of my colleagues have said about your distinguished service, secretary panetta, and how grateful we are for everything you've done for our country. deeply appreciated it. and i thank you both for being here. i wanted to follow up, general dempsey, on, as i understand it, you received briefings from general ham that would include intelligence reporting as well as the reports from the state department and you received those regarding the situation in libya, including the information about the prior attacks within benghazi, including those on our consulates, is that right? >> yes, we get reports
as general dempsey said. and i think with regards to those specific individuals that were involved in this attack, there was a gap. we didn't have the intelligence that would have given us a heads-up that this kind of thing was going to happen. and that is something that we do need to pay attention to. >> my time is up. thank you both. >> thank you, senator ayotte. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to share in what all of my colleagues have said about your distinguished...
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what general dempsey said is, that there was an intelligence gap. i'm not sure i've ever heard that term in my 12 years of experience in intel world. certainly if they had had intelligence that this crowd was forming, that they had been planning this over a period of time, if the community had frankly done its job and given the information, they both agreed that they'd have been prepared to do something about it. but what really bothered me was the fact that general dempsey, through general ham, knew because -- >> general ham, over africom. >> they knew a request was made by chris stevens for additional security, that the consulate in benghazi was not secure. >> the april 16 memo? >> yeah. august 16. >> august 16. >> just a month out. and yet they took no action based on that. what they said is, well, we called up state department and they said we don't really need anything. you know, this is next to the commander in chief. this is the top military officer in the country. if he can't determine on his own that, you know, there is a lack of security t
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there had been, according to the testimony yesterday from general dempsey, teams deployed potentially to help in some kind of a rescue effort. this was total chaos. the u.s. facility on 9/11 under attack and the president of the united states didn't call to follow up? i find that absolutely extraordinary. the other thing we learned is they didn't have communication with secretary clinton, so whatever was happening, they clearly were not talking to one another. i agree entirely with lindsey graham. we need to have a full accounting of where everybody was minute by minute. >> the white house has said today they're pushing back pretty heavily, saying there were multiple phone calls, e-mail, and secure video teleconferences. state, cia, all of the other players. is that the way something like this would routinely be handled? >> we have to remember this wasn't the only thing that was going on. i mean, i was up for half the night i think. a lot of people who typ follow s type of news. our embassy in cairo was under attack. all over the middle east it was exploding, so you would think the pr
there had been, according to the testimony yesterday from general dempsey, teams deployed potentially to help in some kind of a rescue effort. this was total chaos. the u.s. facility on 9/11 under attack and the president of the united states didn't call to follow up? i find that absolutely extraordinary. the other thing we learned is they didn't have communication with secretary clinton, so whatever was happening, they clearly were not talking to one another. i agree entirely with lindsey...
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the president, quote, has to announce for his leadership on benghazi after panetta and general martin dempsey testified, they spoke to the president only once during the eight-hour attack. >> one time. >> right. >> you talked to him how many times? >> the same one time. >> graham and his republican colleagues repeatedly pressed panetta on why there was no direct follow up with mr. obama after they met in the oval office. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary penta, and said how is it going? >> normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me wa finish the answer. we -- we were deploying the forces. he was being kept up to date. >> i hate to interrupt you but we've got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> the white house has said little about what the president did do on the night of september 11th besides releasing this official photo. today the administration tried to shoot down any notion that the president was checked out with one top defense issue e-mailing fox saying we had multiple phone calls, e-ma
the president, quote, has to announce for his leadership on benghazi after panetta and general martin dempsey testified, they spoke to the president only once during the eight-hour attack. >> one time. >> right. >> you talked to him how many times? >> the same one time. >> graham and his republican colleagues repeatedly pressed panetta on why there was no direct follow up with mr. obama after they met in the oval office. >> are you surprised that the...
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. >> greta: i realize today was the hearing with the secretary of defense and general dempsey. i'm curious though, do you know what the cia was doing at that benghazi conflict, what was their job? >> i do not know what their job was, and i'm sure it was gathering intelligence, but the thing that was really frustrating about it is, general dempsey and secretary panetta who are admire, basically said, well, there was nothing we could do. it's 330 miles from the base in crete, to benghazi. if we'd had assets there, they could have reacted. remember, this attack lasted for seven hours, two of the americans died in the last hour. and they believed somehow this threat at the consulate in benghazi was no different than many other places in the world. i am absolutely confident there was no place in the world where there was the attack on the british ambassador, the red cross closed and on august 15th, a message that said they could not resist a sustained attack on the consulate and yet, there was no provision made to move any department of defense asset, either air or ground, anywhere
. >> greta: i realize today was the hearing with the secretary of defense and general dempsey. i'm curious though, do you know what the cia was doing at that benghazi conflict, what was their job? >> i do not know what their job was, and i'm sure it was gathering intelligence, but the thing that was really frustrating about it is, general dempsey and secretary panetta who are admire, basically said, well, there was nothing we could do. it's 330 miles from the base in crete, to...
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defense secretary leon panetta and general martin dempsey chair of the joint chiefs said they made that recommendation to president obama. panetta told a senate hearing that, in the end, the president decided against sending in arms. instead, the u.s. has provided only humanitarian aid to the rebels. secretary panetta also defended the military's response to the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the assault killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. panetta testified there'd been no specific warning of an imminent attack, so u.s. forces were too far away to respond. >> the united states military, as i've said, is not and frankly should not be a 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world. the u.s. military has neither the resources nor the responsibility to have a firehouse next to every u.s. facility in the world. >> sreenivasan: republican senator john mccain of arizona argued the military could have deployed in time, if it had heeded warnings coming from the consulate and ambassador stevens.
defense secretary leon panetta and general martin dempsey chair of the joint chiefs said they made that recommendation to president obama. panetta told a senate hearing that, in the end, the president decided against sending in arms. instead, the u.s. has provided only humanitarian aid to the rebels. secretary panetta also defended the military's response to the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the assault killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. panetta...
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it happened as outgoing secretary leon panetta and martin dempsey were testifying before the senate armed services committee. they were asked about the administration's decision not to arm the syrian rebels in their effort to overthrow the assad regime. the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision in the end. but the answer to your question is yes. >> for both of you? >> yes. >> "the wall street journal" says the white house was concerned about which rebels could be trusted with arms. was also worried about the risk of drawing the united states into another military conflict. but it was questions over benghazi that led to the most heated moments with secr
it happened as outgoing secretary leon panetta and martin dempsey were testifying before the senate armed services committee. they were asked about the administration's decision not to arm the syrian rebels in their effort to overthrow the assad regime. the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military...
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general dempsey says the military respond appropriately. i will ask them what is an inappropriate response. the system failed. but the person i blame the most for benghazi is president obama. it's his foreign policy strategy that aloud this conflict to become a death trap. he's the one to share the blame above all others. martha: senator mccain poibtsd out the last two seals were killed in the final hour of a 7-hour siege. it makes the argument you can't respond to the second 911 call and they can't get there in time a little more complicated, doesn't it? >> it it's a system failure. when general dempsey says the d.o.d. responded appropriately. i think not. not one d.o.d. asset reached these people for over 7 hours. i just find it dumbfounding to believe that we could not provide any military assistance on 9/11 of all days. and given the history of the threat. reports out of libya and the terror situation. this is a system failure. no one is pressing the president. the mainstream media is giving the obama administration a pass and that need
general dempsey says the military respond appropriately. i will ask them what is an inappropriate response. the system failed. but the person i blame the most for benghazi is president obama. it's his foreign policy strategy that aloud this conflict to become a death trap. he's the one to share the blame above all others. martha: senator mccain poibtsd out the last two seals were killed in the final hour of a 7-hour siege. it makes the argument you can't respond to the second 911 call and they...
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general dempsey? >> the bases we have in southern europe and the met mediterranean area are generally speaking have aircraft, first point i made is that it wasn't the right tool for the particular threat we faced. secondly, the aircraft we have in europe, generally are there in support of nato, and on a different alert posture. that was not among the forces. the aircraft were not among the forces that we had at heightened alert. it remitted to the boots on the capabilities that could preeffortively get to an embassy or compound to thicken the defenses if we had reason to do so. >> the troops were not at the base at the time of the? >> no. >> now to followup, you talk about everybody wants a fire station next door, it doesn't work. on the other hand, in this case, as you testified there was about a 13-15 hour practical limitation, i gather since this incident you're trying to shorten that. do you have a target? what would we like to be able to do? particularly in the hot spots which we can identify in
general dempsey? >> the bases we have in southern europe and the met mediterranean area are generally speaking have aircraft, first point i made is that it wasn't the right tool for the particular threat we faced. secondly, the aircraft we have in europe, generally are there in support of nato, and on a different alert posture. that was not among the forces. the aircraft were not among the forces that we had at heightened alert. it remitted to the boots on the capabilities that could...
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hurry. $14.95 won't last. >>> we are back with secretary panetta and general dempsey. again, thank you gentlemen for being here. let me ask about benghazi. first, you'll be talking to capitol hill before you leave office? >> we'll be working on that. they have asked us to testify and we probably will have that opportunity. >> one of the outstanding questions has been why wasn't there someone to come help? why didn't you -- we know you did move ships closer. we know the air base in sicily, you brought in a strike force. why didn't you in a seven-hour timeframe this took place, why couldn't the strike force have said, even if you didn't know what was going on, just get closer. go as though you're going to go there and we'll let you know what we find out? >> very frankly intelligence did not provide any warning this, in fact, was going to happen. we deployed. we knew there were problems here. we moved forces into place where we could deploy them quickly if we had to. they were ready to go. very frankly by the time we got the information as to what, in fact, was taking pla
hurry. $14.95 won't last. >>> we are back with secretary panetta and general dempsey. again, thank you gentlemen for being here. let me ask about benghazi. first, you'll be talking to capitol hill before you leave office? >> we'll be working on that. they have asked us to testify and we probably will have that opportunity. >> one of the outstanding questions has been why wasn't there someone to come help? why didn't you -- we know you did move ships closer. we know the air...
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panetta on capitol hill along with general dempsey, joint chief of staff. there are live shots of the hearing on going. secretary panetta who is right next to him says the military pre pictures for all kinds of situations but there were no specific signs of an imminent aeu that being on the diplomatic mission in libya. he says there simply was not enough time to reach benghazi with enough fire power to prevent the murders of ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. >> the inner agency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks for armed u.s. military assets to have made a difference. jenna: national skhaourt correspondent jennifer given is live at the pentagon watching the hearing as it happens. what is the tenure of the hearing this morning? >> reporter: i think what is most interesting, jenna is as soon as democrats take to the questioning they bring up a totally unrelated element, they start asking the secretary about sequestration, about budget cuts. when the republicans are at th
panetta on capitol hill along with general dempsey, joint chief of staff. there are live shots of the hearing on going. secretary panetta who is right next to him says the military pre pictures for all kinds of situations but there were no specific signs of an imminent aeu that being on the diplomatic mission in libya. he says there simply was not enough time to reach benghazi with enough fire power to prevent the murders of ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. >> the inner...
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ladies and gentlemen, general dempsey. [applause] >> mr. president, secretary and mrs. panetta, ambassadors, members of congress, men and women of the armed forces of the united states, especially our wounded warriors, and we cannot forget bravo. i was hoping bravo would be out there for the inspection of troops, but apparently jeremy thought differently. it is an honor to be here for this event. we're here to show our profound respect and thanks to secretary panetta. i recall play "the tempest," which is a nice metaphor, and i like to think of you as the prospero of public service. the secretary has used his arts to imbue a sense of public service in generations of the men and women. and like that knowledgeable duke, he now asks us to let our indulgences set him free. secretary panetta could not have served so well at the fatefully without the untiring support of his wife, sylvia, and his family. [applause] and so we thank you for your selfless service that have made your husband's contributions possible. [applause] it is clear secretary panetta has mastered the balanc
ladies and gentlemen, general dempsey. [applause] >> mr. president, secretary and mrs. panetta, ambassadors, members of congress, men and women of the armed forces of the united states, especially our wounded warriors, and we cannot forget bravo. i was hoping bravo would be out there for the inspection of troops, but apparently jeremy thought differently. it is an honor to be here for this event. we're here to show our profound respect and thanks to secretary panetta. i recall play...
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"state of the union" at 3:00 with leon panetta and martin dempsey. four-o'clock, "face the nation" roger goodell. the sunday talk shows rearing but he by a public service by the networks. it begins at noon with "meet the press." listen to them all on c-span radio, 90.1 fm in the washington area. 119 on xm satellite radio. you can go online to cspanradio.org. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> i think my experience led me to realize that, yes, i did have a voice. in using it, i could accomplish things. having been crazy -- having been busy raising the children, i do not think up to my mind to anything like that. when i left the white house, there were so many sign people up there who are willing to help you win your cause. i had a big following. >> first lady, influence and image. their public and private life and their influence on the president. produced with the white house historical association. season one begins presidents' day, february 18 at 9:00 eastern and pacif
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at ease. >> ladies and gentlemen, gner -- general dempsey. [applause] >> mr. president, secretary, and mrs. panetta, men and women of the armed forces of the united states, especially our wounded warriors, and of course, we cannot forget bravo -- i was hoping bragh would be out there for the inspection of troops. apparently, until jeremy thought differently. it is an honor here to be here for this event. we're here to show our profound respect for secretary panetta. i recall the play "the tempest." i like to think of you as the prospero of public service. secretary has used his arts to induce a sense of public service in generations of men and women. like the knowledgeable to, he asks us to let our indulgences set him free. secretary panetta could not have served so well and so faithfully without the invaluable and untiring support of his family. sylvia, we thank you for yourself less service that have made your husband's contributions possible. [applause] >> is quite clear that he has balanced service and self. chuck todd played a clip of you from 1989 and la
at ease. >> ladies and gentlemen, gner -- general dempsey. [applause] >> mr. president, secretary, and mrs. panetta, men and women of the armed forces of the united states, especially our wounded warriors, and of course, we cannot forget bravo -- i was hoping bragh would be out there for the inspection of troops. apparently, until jeremy thought differently. it is an honor here to be here for this event. we're here to show our profound respect for secretary panetta. i recall the...
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hearing at the armed services committee yesterday on the senate side that leon panetta and general dempsey both said that he and hillary clinton had argued last season for arming the rebels in syria. more than 60,000 people have died, but that others on the foreign policy team pushed back, and the president made a decision not to. >> yeah. let me just say on this one i may be inclined toward the president. i'm not certain who those -- who would get those weapons. i don't want to fwet into too much detail. i'm also on the intelligence committee, but i'm -- i am not certain that those weapons wouldn't fall into the wrong hands, and that's a real problem we've had in syria. maybe more should be done earlier on to get better control of the rebels, but now to me there's too many unsavory pro-islamist elements among those rebels, so i am not certain that they should be given weapons. that's a tough call, and i'm not close enough to it on the ground, but from what i do know, i'm very leary about giving any weapons because they could end up in the hands of islamists. >> congressman peter king, it'
hearing at the armed services committee yesterday on the senate side that leon panetta and general dempsey both said that he and hillary clinton had argued last season for arming the rebels in syria. more than 60,000 people have died, but that others on the foreign policy team pushed back, and the president made a decision not to. >> yeah. let me just say on this one i may be inclined toward the president. i'm not certain who those -- who would get those weapons. i don't want to fwet into...
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chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the political votes are there. another republican came on board over the weekend. roy blunt will vote no, but not filibuster. the votes are there to confirm him. that is not the question. the question is he going to have the political swagger, if you will, that secretary of defense immediate to both operate inside the pentagon, and that's -- you heard robert gibbs, former press secretary yesterday say it was a little disconcerting watching him give those answers. they made a strategic decision not to have a debate with those republican senators. trying to not start fights, but was he too passive? >> there was a way to push back. david sang
chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the political votes are there....
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thank you both, general dempsey and i hope you enjoy the california weather. >> thank you, senator. senator donnelly. >> mr. spec -- secretary, thank you for your service to this country. we are so much in your debt time after time answering the call. thank you very much. and general dempsey -- much better being a general -- thank you everything you have done for our forces and for our country. and i want to express my condolences to all the families who have suffered losses in this tragedy that we will do everything we can to make sure it never happens again. earlier in the hearing, mr. secretary, you said that it is not the department of defense's job to be 911. and so the question that struck me is, so when this happens and it happens so fast and so quick that when you respond in an hour, it may already be over by that time. are we relying on the home country to be 911? and if so, as you go through what they're providing to us, you mentioned some are not up to the quality of others at this time, but how are you making that decision that we have people in harm's way and we are rel
thank you both, general dempsey and i hope you enjoy the california weather. >> thank you, senator. senator donnelly. >> mr. spec -- secretary, thank you for your service to this country. we are so much in your debt time after time answering the call. thank you very much. and general dempsey -- much better being a general -- thank you everything you have done for our forces and for our country. and i want to express my condolences to all the families who have suffered losses in this...
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but, general dempsey said that the president's national security staff was being constantly updated. so top staff members were in the loop throughout the whole thing. good enough? >> probably not. i think up until yesterday this benghazi story had been about hillary clinton, about susan rice, about the state department. yesterday it became about president obama. and the question was, where was he, after having a prescheduled meeting in the afternoon on that day, secretary panetta spoke to him no more. i think what became clear with lindsey graham's questioning about possible military activity is that nobody in the pentagon would have ordered military act ship without a specific order from the president. and the president wasn't around. rick: i want do ask you both, we have about a minute and a half left. another story came out of these hearings. that is the president himself, rick, himself opposed a plan that was supported by pretty much everybody else in his administration, to try to arm the rebels in syria. what do you make of that? >> you know i think it's remarkable that his team
but, general dempsey said that the president's national security staff was being constantly updated. so top staff members were in the loop throughout the whole thing. good enough? >> probably not. i think up until yesterday this benghazi story had been about hillary clinton, about susan rice, about the state department. yesterday it became about president obama. and the question was, where was he, after having a prescheduled meeting in the afternoon on that day, secretary panetta spoke to...
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enough time to get the united states military on the ground and lars what we're hearing from general dempsey, it wasn't that they couldn't do it, it was they didn't get the request. >> that's right. and this is something that's significant, this isn't, marjorie, about blaming one person, it's saying there was a colassel failure at all levels. the president gets a briefing at five o'clock, he's told the attack is underway he then leaves the white house. he's absent. the military never gets a request from the state department. and the state department has a secretary of state, hillary clinton, who says she never saw the cables coming from her own ambassador, chris stevens, who cabled the state department to say, we're in trouble, not that night, but previous to that. plenty of warning ahead of time. there had been other attacks in the region, in that country. and the state department ignored it and not even bringing it to the secretary's attention. so, hillary clinton is out of touch and out of hand. >> i mean, it is hard, i think, for most people to believe, marjorie, that the president and t
enough time to get the united states military on the ground and lars what we're hearing from general dempsey, it wasn't that they couldn't do it, it was they didn't get the request. >> that's right. and this is something that's significant, this isn't, marjorie, about blaming one person, it's saying there was a colassel failure at all levels. the president gets a briefing at five o'clock, he's told the attack is underway he then leaves the white house. he's absent. the military never gets...
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what question would you ask leon panetta today and martin dempsey if you had a chance to? >> i don't think there's a big conspiracy. we didn't do what we could have. the military did not do something, they didn't fire whatever. my question would be why was there no plan? it's like if you close down your fire department and somebody calls and says my house is on fire. it would take awhile to get everybody back in there and get the fire trucks moving. on the other hand, if you had the fire department standing by, which is what we should have -- standing by -- we could have reacted. >>brian: when this book is written, you take your real life and connections and put them into novel concepts so they come out looking like real stories, one of which was syria. you put a call in to your friends and said what is going on there, i'm going to go research this. what happened? >> i try to be as current as i can. i want current events to be as realistic as i can be. current events are current, and i have a buddy of mine who is much smarter than i am on this type of stuff. i was heading
what question would you ask leon panetta today and martin dempsey if you had a chance to? >> i don't think there's a big conspiracy. we didn't do what we could have. the military did not do something, they didn't fire whatever. my question would be why was there no plan? it's like if you close down your fire department and somebody calls and says my house is on fire. it would take awhile to get everybody back in there and get the fire trucks moving. on the other hand, if you had the fire...
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leon panetta and martin dempsey testified about the benghazi attacks attacks. he accused susan rice of lying about the attacks when she appeared on the sunday tv talk shows last september. here is part of the questioning in that hearing. >> chairman dempsey, at the time of the meeting, would you have -- how would you have characterized the attack on the compound? >> i did not know. >> it could have been either one. >> that is right. >> it could have been spontaneous were preplanned. but i have to ask the same question, would you agree that was a preplanned attack? unequivocably? >> at the time, when this was going on, we were not sure was taking place. when i later found out that you had rpgs and there was an attack, there was no question in my mind. >> my position would be they knew that at the time because i have talked to several people that have stated they knew it. unequivocably that would have been a terrorist attack. the thing i am getting to come and do you agree that it was a terrorist attack? >> when i appeared before this committee three days afterwa
leon panetta and martin dempsey testified about the benghazi attacks attacks. he accused susan rice of lying about the attacks when she appeared on the sunday tv talk shows last september. here is part of the questioning in that hearing. >> chairman dempsey, at the time of the meeting, would you have -- how would you have characterized the attack on the compound? >> i did not know. >> it could have been either one. >> that is right. >> it could have been...